Topic: Weekly Seed #3 [Alpha 2c] [Seed: ConsiderPhlebas] (Read 15576 times)

jimmijamjams · « **on:** July 27, 2015, 07:58:04 PM »

I'll be working when I normally start this thread, so here it is now!

This week's seed: ConsiderPhlebas

Note: There is a new build. Make sure you are running Alpha 2c!

The Weekly Seed is open to anyone. High scores are not the only feature of the runs and the main reason for putting this together is to share our experiences, stories, and tactics over the course of your run. Some super secret achievements will be selected with some RNG at the end of each week from my steadily growing list. Please leave suggestions for the naming of next seed or other achievements to include to my list once you have finished your run!

Rules are as follows:

The Weekly Seed begins from the date this thread is posted and lasts exactly seven days.
Make sure you are running the correct version of Cogmind (see thread subject).
Enter the seed and abort your current game to initiate the seed (more details are below).
Verify you are not running the tutorial and that the screenshot below of the Scrapyard and Level -10 matches your seed (note: [Manual seed applied: AlwaysRun] should display in the log window).
Play through the game once. This is a friendly competition, we are all honest people.
When finished post your scoresheet here (it should be the newest file in /scores) and any other screenshots/stories/strategies you wish to share with the community.
Due to the spoilerific nature of this thread do not read the comments if you are intending to participate and haven't played your run!
Any scoresheets submitted after seven days will not be included.
Good luck!

HOW TO ENTER A SEED

Press F1 to go to the MENU, select OPTIONS, select Seed, and enter this week's seed:

Select GAME, select ABORT:

If you have followed the steps [Manual seed applied: ConsiderPhlebas] should display in the log window.

Congratulations on entering the seed, play nice, robots have feelings too!

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Previous week's seed [AlwaysRun]:

jimmijamjams: 11001
Kyzrati: 9474
zxc: 9141
Happylisk: 5927
sve9: 5103
shinygerbil: 4983
SquigglyJ: 1688
Shobalk: 1131
AlanWithTea: 1016
Kasaris: 127

Previous week's super secret achievement winners:

"It's a unix system..."
Most Machines Hacked
zxc

"We're streaking across the quad!"
Highest percentage of time spent naked
Kasaris

Kyzrati · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:12:49 AM »

I like these awards--interesting random possibilities, fun titles, and point out aspects of a run we may not notice or realize

Shobalk · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2015, 04:04:15 PM »

I was rolling like a boss, but the wheels ended up falling off pretty fast

Score:

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Here's something interesting that I never had happen to me before:

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feeblethemighty · « **Reply #3 on:** July 28, 2015, 04:28:57 PM »

Still pretty new to all this, but gave it a shot! Ended up not stocking enough engines and running out of energy. Enemies kept picking me off while I ran around trying to get a ion engine before the scavengers.

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Kasaris · « **Reply #4 on:** July 28, 2015, 04:57:36 PM »

AHAH I had a secret achievement

Jimmijamjams, one day you'll reveal how you make up these achievements !

EDIT : I'll upload my score here when it's ready

Arnot · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2015, 06:59:58 AM »

First try at this, also one of my best runs so far

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Cogmind - Alpha 2c Name: Arnot ---[ CORE DESTROYED ]--- Performance ------------- Evolutions (5) 2500 Robots Destroyed (98) 490 Value Destroyed (3147) 3147 Prototype IDs (3) 60 Alien Tech Identified (0) 0 Bonus (0) 0 TOTAL SCORE: 6197 Cogmind --------- Core Integrity 0/1000 Matter 273/300 Energy 50/50 System Corruption 7% Temperature Cool (11) Location -5/Factory Parts ------- Power (3) Propulsion (4) Utility (5) Weapon (5) Inventory ----------- Heavy Flail Peak State ------------ Power F-Cell Engine Fission Core Light Deuterium Engine Propulsion Carbon-fiber Leg Carbon-fiber Leg Carbon-fiber Leg Carbon-fiber Leg Utility Improved Targeting Computer Improved Targeting Computer Maneuvering Thrusters System Guard Improved Core Shielding Weapon Gauss Rifle Proton Missile Launcher Improved Lightning Gun Coil Gun Lance [Rating: 68] Favorites ----------- Power Light Nuclear Core Engine Ion Engine Power Core Light Nuclear Core Propulsion Light Treads Treads Light Treads Wheel Armored Wheel Leg Carbon-fiber Leg Utility Improved Targeting Computer Device Heat Sink Processor Improved Targeting Computer Hackware Footprint Analyzer Protection Improved Core Shielding Weapon Gauss Rifle Energy Gun Improved Lightning Gun Energy Cannon Heavy Particle Cannon Ballistic Gun Gauss Rifle Ballistic Cannon Light Cannon Launcher Proton Missile Launcher Impact Weapon Mace Slashing Weapon Katana Piercing Weapon Lance Stats ------- Classes Destroyed 12 Worker 8 Builder 3 Tunneler 1 Hauler 4 Recycler 12 Operator 2 Swarmer 16 Grunt 27 Duelist 2 Sentry 11 Hunter 1 Programmer 11 NPCs Destroyed 0 Best Kill Streak 41 Combat Bots Only 27 Matter Collected 3271 Salvage Created 4497 Parts Attached 159 Power 28 Propulsion 38 Utility 33 Weapon 60 Parts Lost 56 Power 9 Propulsion 14 Utility 12 Weapon 21 Average Slot Usage (%) 92 Naked Turns 28 Spaces Moved 3228 Fastest Speed (%) 200 Slowest Speed (%) 25 Overloaded Moves 0 Propulsion Burnouts 0 Targets Rammed 6 Cave-ins Triggered 0 Teleports 0 Heaviest Build 61 Greatest Overweight (x) 11 Average Overweight (x) 0 Largest Inventory 4 Most Items Carried 4 Core Damage Taken 1647 Volleys Fired 270 Largest 4 Hottest 255 Shots Fired 662 Gun 520 Cannon 108 Launcher 34 Special 0 Kinetic 407 Thermal 100 Explosive 19 Electromagnetic 136 Overload Shots 0 Energy Bleed 0 Heat Surge 0 Short Circuit 0 Meltdown 0 Melee Attacks 46 Impact 22 Slashing 12 Piercing 12 Damage Inflicted 9557 Projectiles 7495 Explosions 1358 Melee 689 Ramming 15 Highest Temperature 553 Average Temperature 120 Shutdowns 9 Energy Bleed 1 Interference 6 Matter Decay 1 Short Circuit 1 Damage (minor) 1 Damage (major) 0 Damage (core) 0 Highest Corruption 7 Message Errors 9 Parts Rejected 3 Data loss (map) 11 Data loss (database) 4 Misfires 3 Misdirections 4 Targeting Errors 5 Weapon Failures 3 Haulers Intercepted 4 Robots Corrupted 1 Tactical Retreats 24 Communications Jammed 0 Parts Field Recycled 0 Retrieved Matter 0 Parts Merge Repaired 0 Drone Launches 2 Drone Recoveries 0 Derelicts 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jimmijamjams · « **Reply #6 on:** July 29, 2015, 07:02:32 AM »

Quote from: Kyzrati on July 28, 2015, 08:12:49 AM

I like these awards--interesting random possibilities, fun titles, and point out aspects of a run we may not notice or realize

I like inventing them

There's lots of interesting information to compare!

Quote from: Kasaris on July 28, 2015, 04:57:36 PM

AHAH I had a secret achievement

Jimmijamjams, one day you'll reveal how you make up these achievements !

It's super secret! I'll never tell!

jimmijamjams · « **Reply #7 on:** July 29, 2015, 10:04:08 PM »

I tried a few things a bit differently this time round.

I've been noticing here and on reddit some discussion about the difficulty in the early-game so I decided to try some tactics that I thought emulated what people might be doing. I'll go over my setup, my short game, and then make a list of tips that might help new-comers and long-time sufferers.

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Hope this helps

EDIT: Jeeeez, my spelling is atrocious!

kumo · « **Reply #8 on:** July 30, 2015, 09:40:45 AM »

OK, something went wrong very quickly, but I will try again:

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feeblethemighty · « **Reply #9 on:** July 30, 2015, 01:29:50 PM »

These are great tips jimmijamjams! I didn't know about haulers yet, and replaying the same seed seems like a great way to test and learn different strategies. Might even be fun after the compo to keep playing the seed and openly share strategies without fear of spoilers.

boomblip · « **Reply #10 on:** July 30, 2015, 06:16:25 PM »

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my run.

jimmijamjams · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2015, 11:41:31 PM »

Quote from: feeblethemighty on July 30, 2015, 01:29:50 PM

These are great tips jimmijamjams! I didn't know about haulers yet, and replaying the same seed seems like a great way to test and learn different strategies. Might even be fun after the compo to keep playing the seed and openly share strategies without fear of spoilers.

Cheers! If I get some spare time I'll definitely give this one another go

Happylisk · « **Reply #12 on:** August 01, 2015, 07:13:57 AM »

Ughhhhh how embarrassing.

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What went down:

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Kyzrati · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2015, 10:41:14 AM »

My highest score yet with a full combat no-holds-barred attack build, but didn't quite get as far as last time.

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Spoiler: Full sheet for easier access than attachment (click to show/hide)

I'll check out everyone else's runs tomorrow. As usual I've played until really late!

ironpotato · « **Reply #14 on:** August 01, 2015, 06:52:47 PM »

Welp I'm not back up to snuff, but this run went better than my first two after updating to Alpha 2c.

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That turned out to be a really cool seed though. I don't know where I went wrong. I guess an engineer saw me and sounded the signal. It was all down hill from there

Kyzrati · « **Reply #15 on:** August 01, 2015, 11:50:05 PM »

Quote from: Shobalk on July 28, 2015, 04:04:15 PM

I was rolling like a boss, but the wheels ended up falling off pretty fast

Here's something interesting that I never had happen to me before:
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Yeah, you really should stay away from wheels unless there's no other choice--they're a last resort (easy to find) that get blown off quite easily!

And lots more events like that will be coming with the introduction of more story aspects in the future, though most all of that will be in the branches (like you found in Storage).

@feeblethemighty: A respectable run for just beginning. Looks like you had a pretty good peak setup there. Surprised you had power problems, but maybe you were trying to fight using energy weapons and didn't have spare power?

Quote from: Arnot on July 29, 2015, 06:59:58 AM

First try at this, also one of my best runs so far

Very nice peak build! That's kinda the way I normally play when I'm going with a leg-based combat loadout, but I was trying for something slightly different this time. Seems like you could possibly get by with one less power and one less leg at that point, though, giving space for more utilities. (You might end up a bit overweight, but that's not too bad with legs.)

@jimmijamjams: Short run indeed! I saw that stockpile of ECM Suites and was thinking about you as I passed them

Really helpful guide, there. Cogmind is new enough that there's still a lack of text guides when it comes to strategy. After this seed we should copy that over to the strategies board. There's still quite a bit more that has gone unsaid, too.

Quote from: kumo on July 30, 2015, 09:40:45 AM

OK, something went wrong very quickly, but I will try again:

Ah yes, the Mines...

Quote from: Happylisk on August 01, 2015, 07:13:57 AM

Ughhhhh how embarrassing.

Oh look, the Mines again

Quote from: ironpotato on August 01, 2015, 06:52:47 PM

Welp I'm not back up to snuff, but this run went better than my first two after updating to Alpha 2c.

You weren't trying to fly/hover the whole time, were you? (Or was that just a backup plan?) Looks like an unusual slot distribution for a flier--on the heavy side.

ironpotato · « **Reply #16 on:** August 02, 2015, 12:33:29 AM »

Quote from: Kyzrati on August 01, 2015, 11:50:05 PM

You weren't trying to fly/hover the whole time, were you? (Or was that just a backup plan?) Looks like an unusual slot distribution for a flier--on the heavy side.

WAS VERY HEAVY! I couldn't get anything else that was decent.

After I thought on it for a while I realized my problem was probably spending too much time hanging around or trying to fight when I could have easily ran. I was expecting some better gear; I was really hoping to go hover. Should have shed some weight and GTFO'd

Edit: For more context, my build was lighter at first, but I ended up drawing way too much attention. That lead to loading a bunch of armor/heat sinks and large weapons. In the end I was losing resources too quickly to sustain myself. I got lucky at one point and killed everything off and got to run away, but ran head first into a defender and then reinforcements arrived. It was a sad day.

Kyzrati · « **Reply #17 on:** August 02, 2015, 01:22:36 AM »

Hover can work really well, it's just often harder to find the parts since fewer robots use them, unless you enjoy confronting Programmers

. Producing your own at fabricators might be a better alternative. I've enjoyed the times I was able to hover effectively, but I don't usually aim to do it--it's more a result of opportunistic looting of Programmers when I don't have enough left anyway.

If you're trying to go light then you do want to spend less time in a given area. Other players also tend to use ECM as well (there was a stockpile at the beginning of this seed), and run circuits to throw off pursuers.

ironpotato · « **Reply #18 on:** August 02, 2015, 01:41:24 PM »

Quote from: Kyzrati on August 02, 2015, 01:22:36 AM

Hover can work really well, it's just often harder to find the parts since fewer robots use them, unless you enjoy confronting Programmers . Producing your own at fabricators might be a better alternative. I've enjoyed the times I was able to hover effectively, but I don't usually aim to do it--it's more a result of opportunistic looting of Programmers when I don't have enough left anyway.

If you're trying to go light then you do want to spend less time in a given area. Other players also tend to use ECM as well (there was a stockpile at the beginning of this seed), and run circuits to throw off pursuers.

I must have missed that ECM cache, I may replay this seed a couple times because I know there were a lot of opportunities for good gear. I think I just didn't think this run through very well.

shinygerbil · « **Reply #19 on:** August 02, 2015, 04:13:32 PM »

Score:

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*extremely* brief summary, given the score above:

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;-;

sve9 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 02, 2015, 04:36:48 PM »

Last minute response (Didn't have wifi

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Kyzrati · « **Reply #21 on:** August 02, 2015, 06:57:19 PM »

Quote from: shinygerbil on August 02, 2015, 04:13:32 PM

Got into an early fight unprepared - ended up in some mines after a kinda pointless escape. Ah well, it happens

;-;

That's one of the purposes of the Mines, to give an alternate escape route if you're encountering real trouble early, but sometimes it still doesn't work out for you, depending on the situation down there

Quote from: sve9 on August 02, 2015, 04:36:48 PM

I tried to go for a more shoot build this time, and while I didn't necessarily get very far I think that I did pretty well. I tried out treads for the first time this run and really liked how they freed me up to put almost all of my evolutions into weapons and utilities.

A very good run for an early try at combat! The difficulty starts to rise a good bit around -4/-3 when you're taking everything on. I'm going to buff treads a little more in the next release; they're a lot of fun.

sve9 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 02, 2015, 07:49:12 PM »

Yeah, it's an absurd amount of fun to just blow everything that you come across up.

Toskin · « **Reply #23 on:** August 03, 2015, 04:38:44 AM »

This is really one of these: Play like hell or you will end there. Practice rules. I need much of it.

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jimmijamjams · « **Reply #24 on:** August 04, 2015, 05:50:32 AM »

Hope you guys had fun this week, here are the results:

Kyzrati: 11043
sve9: 8388
Arnot: 6197
boomblip: 4079
Shobalk: 3507
ironpotato: 3434
feeblethemighty: 2714
Toskin: 1791
shinygerbil: 1314
jimmijamjams: 655
Happylisk: 631
kumo: 93

Super secret achievement winners:

"It's a Chopper, baby"
Favourite propulsion type: Wheels
kumo
Happylisk
Toskin
feeblethemighty
boomblip

"It's off to work we go"
Died in the Mines
kumo
Happylisk
shinygerbil
Toskin

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