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Beta 14 (build 240808a) froze when UFD LBC collects an item?

Started by I can t sign in on N.W.L, August 11, 2024, 04:53:04 PM

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My name in dicates a problem but that's for later not anymore! Kyzrati for the win

Not spoiler technically (the non spoiled parts) but I don't recommend if you want to have a fun time discovering things...Also I don't know what is and isn't spoiler for the UFD so playing safe here noemica wiki isn't updated. PS it is! not the location but the item/s is!

THE BOTTOM HAS THE REAL BUG the rest is a jumble of me narrowing it down and writing it then recreating it but read it

while in wastes, I had derelict allies in the walls, no emp., and the staring derelict friend, I had a
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large bot cube from scraptown  and had used a  scrapoid pod.  I used the bot cube and was in mid transform, collecting items when (I had just moved over and dropped and activated) the derelicts and scrapoids moved over and a derelict switched with the spot the bot cube was in and the game froze... so then I looked at task manager and was using all the cpu. it could get (not much tho this is on a dropped laptop w/a broken screen  :P) 40% but the rest was used up. I think it was from the bot cube being moved even tho it moved fine when the serf attached itself to it on your stream (yes I watch them not live tho  :(
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but I haven't attempted to reproduce it yet so I'll see about that. The run log and the windows reports/logs are there not that I think they help much I looked in them but its your game so you know better... I have a screen shot (nope)
PS. i can't get the file from snipping tool so no image :'(

It has a save from earlier before the bot cube idk of that means something. screenshot is attached


also, not related to this bug, were do I post bugs for the forum?

Great game and keep up with the good work!

PSS. can be recreated, it crashes once I activate it and it collects a item, i think 2+ slot, no need for a derelict can't check now tho.

Kyzrati

Quote from: I can t sign in on N.W.L on August 11, 2024, 04:53:04 PM
while in wastes, I had derelict allies in the walls, no emp., and the staring derelict friend, I had a
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large bot cube from scraptown  and had used a  scrapoid pod.  I used the bot cube and was in mid transform, collecting items when (I had just moved over and dropped and activated) the derelicts and scrapoids moved over and a derelict switched with the spot the bot cube was in and the game froze... so then I looked at task manager and was using all the cpu. it could get (not much tho this is on a dropped laptop w/a broken screen  :P) 40% but the rest was used up. I think it was from the bot cube being moved even tho it moved fine when the serf attached itself to it on your stream (yes I watch them not live tho  :(
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but I haven't attempted to reproduce it yet so I'll see about that. The run log and the windows reports/logs are there not that I think they help much I looked in them but its your game so you know better... I have a screen shot (nope)
PS. i can't get the file from snipping tool so no image :'(

It has a save from earlier before the bot cube idk of that means something. screenshot is attached

Great game and keep up with the good work!

PSS. can be recreated, it crashes once I activate it and it collects a item, i think 2+ slot, no need for a derelict can't check now tho.
I heard about at least one issue with the cube collection under some circumstances though so far nothing repeatable. I'll try to recreate from your description here, though when possible a save game (the latest .sav file in /user/) makes it quicker to track down and fix certain issues, especially when they require a particular setup, in case there are maybe details that can't be related.

Sounds like your game actually hung rather than crashed, which is exactly what was reported in another instance, so hopefully this info might help.

Quote from: I can t sign in on N.W.L on August 11, 2024, 04:53:04 PM
also, not related to this bug, were do I post bugs for the forum?
You could use the forum feedback thread.
Josh Ge, Developer - Dev Blog | @GridSageGames | Patreon

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Sorry about that I realized after posting that it didn't have anything to do with the LBC moving and had to edit my post fast (wasn't a good time) and I put crashed at the end instead if it hanging.
Some extra details. 
I stole from the UFD, I was too slow to remove the derelict as a factor ,and some times it would take several turns eg. 4.8 and some times just 1.58 turns. If there are any other details I can give ask and I'll try
Also guess I have to say it somewhere so
Dosh sent me ( I'm one of those :p ) I'll send the save file in like 8 hours because I don't have the laptop with me

Kyzrati

Ah no problem, if you do have a save which can easily repeat it then that would be very helpful and I can track it down quickly for the next patch, but no rush :)
Josh Ge, Developer - Dev Blog | @GridSageGames | Patreon

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I think this is the save  :P

*gets a random run of mine or old crash


messing around a bit and moving the place where I put the bot cube by ONE  to the left fixes the bug (so far... I'll stop spamming the forum until I have something of more substance to report)

Kyzrati

Excellent, thank you for the save this enabled me to find the cause immediately and it'll be fixed in the next patch! (going out some time over the next week)

It happens if your activated cube gets moved on top of a part it intends to pick up, which in this case is quite likely because you have a bunch of allies nearby which are capable of pushing it around during that process. (This was a bug introduced by an earlier Beta 14 patch meant to adjust their mechanics a bit, but didn't take that particular situation in to account.)
Josh Ge, Developer - Dev Blog | @GridSageGames | Patreon

Kyzrati

By the way, for bug reports I put player names in the changelog when they helped report and/or solve something, but is "N.W.L" what you'd want to use for that? (seems like it may not be given the earlier circumstances)

Or something else.
Josh Ge, Developer - Dev Blog | @GridSageGames | Patreon

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N.W.L is my preferred name in general, the weird alt. "I can t sign in on N.W.L "was a because i was using the nickname to login instead of the real username  ;D and I found out and fixed it.
Are you able to some how transfer the credit if the "I can t sign in on N.W.L " to me because I would like to delete it since I won't use it

Used the save and went on to trigger high sec. (Stupid matry kept exploding all explosive machines and killed half of my allies in one go and finished off the rest in another... no wonder people kill/disarm them) and now flight build into hopefully heavy combat to victory but I'll probably die since I don't have any events to distract myself
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this will spoil the joke
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( remember I'm Unaware... for now)
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( but just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean I won't try it) I had to leave my BC friend behind  *I did a Luigi (I think anyway)

Kyzrati

Ah good you were able to sign up with the proper account name then. I merged the posts from that account into your new one and deleted the old account.
Josh Ge, Developer - Dev Blog | @GridSageGames | Patreon

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Quote from: Kyzrati on August 14, 2024, 06:16:57 AM
Ah good you were able to sign up with the proper account name then. I merged the posts from that account into your new one and deleted the old account.
Thanks