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unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« on: January 12, 2020, 05:29:21 PM »

While waiting for the leaderboards, I made this with score data Kyzrati shared with patrons. Data is from January 8.

Rogue
1. Nikolayag Ascended 679427
2. Valguris Ascended 122075
3. FacGarFacGarFacWasFacGar Ascended++ 121031
4. Alexbot -1/Access_0+ 93367
5. Terminus Ascended++ 90620
6. whitenitro0 Ascended++ 86569
7. kiedra -1/Command 83455
8. Pimski -1/Command 78777
9. Joshua Ascended++ 77202
10. cptwinky Ascended 76541

Adventurer
1. Suslik -3/Section 7 73320
2. sideriver81 -1/Access 59919
3. Snowflake -1/Access 40181
4. Demise -3/Armory 32752
5. FooBarZisch -1/Access 30361
6. toad3k -3/Research 27438
7. Donnie -2/Section 7 26482
8. Sir Arcana -1/Access 25963
9. Rian -6/Factory 21459
10. mu -3/Proximity Caves 20922

Explorer
1. ApolliniaD Ascended+ 90642
2. Khal42 Ascended 55385
3. Kiks Ascended 52436
4. sideriver81 Ascended 29106
5. Pseudo-ku -1/Access 28853
6. RezTeKK -3/Testing 26762
7. n8leveler -2/Research 22819
8. viper -4/Factory 22665
9. Daisuke -6/Waste 19843
10. Aubrey -3/Research 19595

Halloween2019/Abominations Rogue
1. PhenomPhear Ascended 31292
2. Pimski Ascended 26508
3. Trione Ascended 25058
4. Valguris Ascended 25017
5. Gitida Ascended 20207
6. lsend Ascended 19985
7. Nikolayag Ascended 19459
8. Puzzlebark Ascended 17509
9. Zyalin Ascended 16957
10. tourn Ascended 16676

Halloween2019/Abominations Adventurer
1. Ms Vella -7/Factory 4371
2. MojoPoop -8/Materials 3608
3. core_nxt -9/Materials 2620
4. sideriver81 -8/Materials 2275
5. Zntyl -9/Materials 1515
6. Joseph -10/Materials 926
7. Scandroid -10/Materials 508

Halloween2019/Abominations Explorer
1. n8leveler -9/Materials 2166
2. Arctrect -10/Materials 372

AFD2019/Pay2Buy Rogue
1. K.Ioz -9/Materials 1926

Winter2019/RPGLIKE Rogue
1. Valguris Ascended++ 308052
2. Terminus Ascended++ 207420
3. Invest in Accuracy Ascended++ 202396
4. Nikolayag -1/Command+ 174314
5. spruce (@macklemurr) -1/Access_0++ 160800
6. Pimski -1/Command 160756
7. Trione -1/Command 140796
8. Joshua Ascended++ 133805
9. cptwinky Ascended 118191
10. PlasticHeart Ascended 105439

Winter2019/RPGLIKE Adventurer
1. DanielJ -2/Research 60069
2. slh -1/Command 53920
3. PaultheNerd -4/Factory 43484
4. Rev -3/Quarantine 42784
5. Zntyl -1/Access 37822
6. Sir Arcana -1/Command 36709
7. Driana Ascended 35526
8. BW-032 -3/Research 31416
9. Ms Vella -3/Research 30427
10. Moredread -3/Research 21158

Winter2019/RPGLIKE Explorer
1. Solar Sloth Ascended++ 119385
2. ApolliniaD Ascended 96879
3. n8leveler -3/Armory 76484
4. RezTeKK -1/Command 67078
5. zill -3/Quarantine 60088
6. viper -2/Research 54024
7. BillyNate -1/Access 42347
8. Asura Daeva -1/Command 42093
9. K.Ioz -5/Upper Caves 36672
10. Blade_Drake -2/Research 36479

Rogue Challenge
1. Alexbot Ascended 71378 Gauntlet
2. Zyalin Ascended+ 68608 Pure Core
3. Filthy Flyin Ascended 62204 Fragile Parts, Pure Core, Simple Hacker, Unstable Evolution
4. Joshua Ascended 33574 Devolution
5. cptwinky Ascended 24298 Trapped

Explorer Challenge
1. Solar Sloth -6/Garrison 12534 Super Gauntlet
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Re: unofficial high scores
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2020, 05:43:35 PM »

It should probably be noted in/for the title here that these are composite Beta 9~9.4 scores, so were compiled from over the last several months.

Also I'm surprised I'm not in the top 10 for the Halloween/Abominations Rogue list! Did fairly decently but apparently not even well enough to break into that one xD
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2020, 06:16:11 PM »

I've edited the title as suggested.

Looked through the scores, looks like you were at #13 with a score of 15561 for Abominations. :)

I basically wrote something similar to your description of analyze_scores for the old system to load all the data and sort it into these lists -- mostly as an excuse to practice Clojure programming, since I am trying to learn it. I've also been playing with Incanter for creating graphs but nothing very interesting yet. I'd like a graph showing whether or not vi-keys players have a higher win rate than others. ;)  I might look at Ape's graphs again and the Alpha challenge for other ideas about data to pull out.
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2020, 07:32:54 PM »

Looked through the scores, looks like you were at #13 with a score of 15561 for Abominations. :)
Haha, no wonder xD

I guess I didn't do quite well enough--it's a tough mode! Also fewer chances for score without branches, not to mention the tougher enemies (I was running and rushing a lot of the time!)

I basically wrote something similar to your description of analyze_scores for the old system to load all the data and sort it into these lists -- mostly as an excuse to practice Clojure programming, since I am trying to learn it. I've also been playing with Incanter for creating graphs but nothing very interesting yet. I'd like a graph showing whether or not vi-keys players have a higher win rate than others. ;)  I might look at Ape's graphs again and the Alpha challenge for other ideas about data to pull out.
Hehe, I do imagine there could be aa slightly higher average among vi users. In my old data one of the standard outputs was the relative score between keyboard vs. mouse players ;) (keyboard does average higher, of course, but some of the really good players actually do use the mouse as well, so it's more a case of pretty much all the newer players using the mouse at first--to get more interesting data there would possibly have to restrict it to long-time players) Can also do ASCII vs. Tiles, a similar thing.
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2020, 07:13:38 AM »

Some more analysis on game count and win count. I can't figure out how to make this table look good but here it is anyway. :)

CategoryTotalWinWin Rate (%)
Overall35011855.3
By Difficulty
Rogue28981705.9
Adventurer41130.7
Explorer192126.3
By Input Type
Arrows26072.7
Mouse1190171.4
Numpad16351197.3
Vi4164210.1
By Mutation
CRM922931.5
DC511019.6
Farcom5366612.3
Imprinted2022612.9
RIF4224410.4
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2020, 05:17:12 AM »

Hey that looks nice and readable as is, thanks :)

I would imagine the best way is to do it in some other program/format and make it an image :P

The other win rate which is interesting to look at is the per-player rate, i.e. whether each player got a win at all with a given version. Like for beta 8 it was over 13%, which is pretty decent.

Pretty good split across the mutation categories.
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2020, 05:31:12 AM »

The other win rate which is interesting to look at is the per-player rate, i.e. whether each player got a win at all with a given version. Like for beta 8 it was over 13%, which is pretty decent.

Pretty good split across the mutation categories.

Note this calculation considers them independently so a win might be counted in multiple rows in this table. I am new to data analysis like this so still trying to formulate the questions, but one is: what's the win rate compared to people who got far enough to get that mutation, but chose not to? I noticed that the win rate for mutations is considerably higher than overall but I don't know how many of those overall dropped out in the first 3 or 4 floors. By the time you get CRM you are much closer to the end of the game, anyway, and good enough to survive some dangerous areas.

Thinking some kind of bar chart comparing mutations by depth reached might be good here. :)

I might try to code the player rate later, it means processing the data a little differently.
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2020, 05:17:28 PM »

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By the time you get CRM you are much closer to the end of the game, anyway, and good enough to survive some dangerous areas.
For sure, plus there's the fact that it's the only one you can do "by accident" :P

"Chose not to" can be an interesting one. I've done that before where you check for example that they visited Zion but did not imprint. Or no FC in Exiles.
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2020, 06:14:35 PM »

Since I haven't gotten Crosswire yet, I was wondering what the odds are.

RIF ability counts: the value in each column is for games where that ability was gotten on that install. e.g. A number in column 7 means it was gotten on the 7th install.

Installers Used123456789101112
Overall42221114810776534127201444
Autoassimilate000141491123100
Program Shield0252313112032102
Patrol Navigation039171176312010
Alert Id Control034111782231200
Robot Detection037241263032100
Coupler Efficiency042191410121152621
Autooverride00302014131232101
Crosswire000000065010
Structural Interface03424666211200
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2020, 06:30:52 PM »

Ooh wow that's some interesting stats we can now get with depthwise info!

The numbers make sense since some abilities clearly have a minimum install "RIF level" ;)

Crosswire is really just for those who stick to it and go Full RIF.
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2020, 06:33:00 PM »

Ooh wow that's some interesting stats we can now get with depthwise info!

The numbers make sense since some abilities clearly have a minimum install "RIF level" ;)

Crosswire is really just for those who stick to it and go Full RIF.

I've done that at least 2-3 times and haven't gotten it yet :)

Edit: In fact, I am that guy who pushed it to 12 times (in an Access garrison!) and got Coupler Efficiency for my pains. That was an exciting run, I think I escaped through the Command door on core hover with <100 integrity left. Didn't realize how bad High Sec on Access would be.
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2020, 06:39:15 PM »

Heh, yeah it's still random, not guaranteed, although by the then the relative chance would have also gone up since some of the hacks are one-time-only and dropped from the pool.

Pretty awesome that you managed to escape coming out of an Access garrison. Very deadly xD
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2020, 04:42:29 AM »

High scores with updated data from beta 9-9.4 through February 10:

Rogue
1. Nikolayag Ascended 679427
2. Valguris Ascended 122075
3. FacGarFacGarFacWasFacGar Ascended++ 121031
4. Alexbot -1/Access_0+ 93367
5. Terminus Ascended++ 90620
6. Pimski Ascended 89903
7. Joshua Ascended+ 87116
8. whitenitro0 Ascended++ 86569
9. kiedra -1/Command 83455
10. cptwinky Ascended 76541

Adventurer
1. Suslik -3/Section 7 73320
2. sideriver81 -1/Access 59919
3. Snowflake -1/Access 40181
4. Demise -3/Armory 32752
5. FooBarZisch -1/Access 30361
6. toad3k -3/Research 27438
7. Donnie -2/Section 7 26482
8. Sir Arcana -1/Access 25963
9. Plexion -4/Factory 25378
10. WingedOwl -4/Extension 24732

Explorer
1. ApolliniaD Ascended+ 90642
2. Khal42 Ascended 55385
3. Kiks Ascended 52436
4. sideriver81 Ascended 29106
5. Pseudo-ku -1/Access 28853
6. RezTeKK -3/Testing 26762
7. Xax Ascended 25888
8. n8leveler -2/Research 22819
9. viper -4/Factory 22665
10. K.Ioz -2/Research 20742

Halloween2019/Abominations Rogue
1. PhenomPhear Ascended 31292
2. Pimski Ascended 26508
3. Trione Ascended 25058
4. Valguris Ascended 25017
5. Gitida Ascended 20207
6. lsend Ascended 19985
7. Nikolayag Ascended 19459
8. Puzzlebark Ascended 17509
9. Zyalin Ascended 16957
10. tourn Ascended 16676

Halloween2019/Abominations Adventurer
1. Ms Vella -7/Factory 4371
2. MojoPoop -8/Materials 3608
3. core_nxt -9/Materials 2620
4. sideriver81 -8/Materials 2275
5. Zntyl -9/Materials 1515
6. Joseph -10/Materials 926
7. Scandroid -10/Materials 508

Halloween2019/Abominations Explorer
1. sideriver81 Ascended 18935
2. n8leveler -9/Materials 2166
3. Arctrect -10/Materials 372

AFD2018/Launchers Rogue
1. Kyzrati -3/Research 18075
2. sideriver81 -2/Research 16709
3. Judas -8/Storage 3960

AFD2019/Pay2Buy Rogue
1. sideriver81 Ascended 25734
2. FontPeg -7/Garrison 12822
3. Cookie -6/Factory 11775
4. K.Ioz -9/Materials 1926

Winter2019/RPGLIKE Rogue
1. Valguris Ascended++ 308052
2. Terminus Ascended++ 212967
3. Invest in Accuracy Ascended++ 202396
4. Nikolayag -1/Command+ 174314
5. spruce (@macklemurr) Ascended+ 163866
6. Pimski -1/Command 160756
7. badjay Ascended+ 157794
8. Trione -1/Command 140796
9. Joshua Ascended++ 133805
10. cptwinky Ascended 118191

Winter2019/RPGLIKE Adventurer
1. DanielJ -2/Research 60069
2. slh -1/Command 53920
3. PaultheNerd -4/Factory 43484
4. Rev -3/Quarantine 42784
5. Zntyl -1/Access 37822
6. Sir Arcana -1/Command 36709
7. Driana Ascended 35526
8. Legion -6/Factory 34842
9. BW-032 -3/Research 31416
10. Ms Vella -3/Research 30427

Winter2019/RPGLIKE Explorer
1. Solar Sloth Ascended++ 119385
2. ApolliniaD Ascended 96879
3. n8leveler -3/Armory 76484
4. RezTeKK -1/Command 67078
5. zill -3/Quarantine 60088
6. viper -2/Research 54024
7. BillyNate -1/Access 42347
8. Asura Daeva -1/Command 42093
9. K.Ioz -5/Upper Caves 36672
10. Blade_Drake -2/Research 36479

Rogue Challenge
1. Alexbot Ascended 71378 Gauntlet
2. Zyalin Ascended+ 68608 Pure Core
3. Filthy Flyin Ascended 62204 Fragile Parts, Pure Core, Simple Hacker, Unstable Evolution
4. Joshua Ascended 33574 Devolution
5. cptwinky Ascended 24298 Trapped

Explorer Challenge
1. Solar Sloth -6/Garrison 12534 Super Gauntlet


CategoryTotalWinWin Rate (%)
Overall43542575.9
By Difficulty
Rogue35952346.5
Adventurer50871.4
Explorer251166.4
By Input Type
Arrows34492.6
Mouse1428201.4
Numpad20821798.6
Vi500499.8
By Mutation
CRM1194739.5
DC651320.0
Farcom6819313.7
Imprinted2593613.9
RIF4865210.7

RIF Usage:
Installers Used123456789101112
Overall48624416812187614631231754
Autoassimilate000151591123210
Program Shield0302813125142102
Patrol Navigation044181596313010
Alert Id Control040161982431200
Robot Detection043271665032100
Coupler Efficiency048201411151162721
Autooverride00332219131452201
Crosswire000000067010
Structural Interface03926776211200

Win Distributions:
Win-+++
w01623
w1147
w21449
w31423
w422
w532
w616
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2020, 05:15:57 AM »

Data from February 10:

Pacifist Rogues (Ranked by Pacifist bonus, then score to break ties)
1. Xii Ascended 52608
2. Zyalin Ascended 40832
3. sideriver81 Ascended 32603
4. Qupu -5/Upper Caves 6767
5. lsend -1/Command 33091
6. GammaGradiation -1/Access 8900
7. Trione -1/Access 14261
8. muxecoid -5/Proximity Caves 9701
9. Alexbot -6/Factory 3889
10. Hilbert -7/Storage 3267

RIF Rogues
1. Valguris Ascended 122075
2. FacGarFacGarFacWasFacGar Ascended++ 121031
3. Alexbot Ascended 63765
4. Joshua Ascended 61912
5. Kyzrati Ascended 61101
6. Trione -3/Testing 59977
7. Pimski Ascended 57415
8. Daniexpert -1/Command 55382
9. alice_fexa Ascended 53737
10. Suslik -3/Quarantine 52965

Imprinted Rogues
1. Dropped 2 WCannons Ascended++ 95444
2. Terminus Ascended++ 90620
3. Joshua Ascended+ 87116
4. Alexbot Ascended 79394
5. lsend Ascended++ 67253
6. Stryker Ascended+ 57168
7. Zyalin Ascended+ 54994
8. cptwinky -1/Command 47493
9. Fleshy Vegetable Bird Ascended+ 44940
10. Finestep -1/Access 44099

DC Rogues
1. Valguris Ascended+ 117071
2. Alexbot -2/Testing 69324
3. Fleshy Vegetable Bird -1/Command 60424
4. Pimski Ascended 57415
5. inSANE -3/Research 24534
6. aperiodic -7/Data Miner 19865
7. sideriver81 -4/Factory 19632
8. alice_fexa -6/Factory 15546
9. derk -5/Proximity Caves 14882
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2020, 05:55:09 AM »

The achievement for widest variety of entertaining names from a single player goes to:

1. 31 Weapons Ascended++ 105568
2. Dropped 2 WCannons Ascended++ 95444
3. 16-util Treads Ascended++ 89989
4. Severed Armor ANalysis Ascended++ 98975
5. Filthy Flyin Ascended 62204 Fragile Parts, Pure Core, Simple Hacker, Unstable Evolution
6. FacGarFacGarFacWasFacGar Ascended++ 121031
7. I Guess BFG Oneshots then Ascended++ 82133
8. Invest in Accuracy Ascended++ 202396
9. Another OP Meleehover Ascended++ 85009
10. Just Fab Lgt Ion Engines Ascended 56373 Gauntlet, Inhibited Evolution, No Salvage, Sticky Parts
11. golem with a battery Ascended++ 98072
12. 5 Bees in a Hovercraft Ascended++ 94229
13. Wheelsiege Kinetics Ascended++ 90163
14. Pointblank Supercharge Ascended++ 87727
15. ZionFlightMelee Ascended++ 79406
16. Best Prop Best Guns Ascended++ 104746
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Re: unofficial high scores [beta 9-9.4]
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2020, 06:10:54 AM »

Wow who the heck is doing that xD

I feel like it's GJ, but not completely sure.
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