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[Boondiggle]

Hello!

I made some ascii art for the guns a few years ago, but had to put that on hold for personal reasons. I'm back and ready to continue, but a problem I had then is cropping back up now.
Some colors, when exported to CDDA format using ctrl+j, are either different colors than what's in-game (some values of yellow in REXpaint become shades of brown in CDDA, for example), or are color combos that do not work at all (e.g. 'color_yellow_brown' throws an error and does not display. 'yellow with a brown background' does exist in-game, but it's called 'color_yellow_yellow' instead).

I looked through the REXpaint settings/config and could not find a way to change or add color tags for export. I looked through the directory, too, but didn't see any files I could open in notepad that had these color tags defined anywhere.

I'm motivated to get this working. I'll run a test later to see exactly which ones aren't working and what they should be instead. If I get a list of "bad color > good color" together, is this something that can be fixed?

[Kyzrati]

This might have to do with the version of CDDA you are using? CDDA itself had inconsistent use of colors and issues with its docs/source not matching up, but this was resolved specifically for REXPaint years ago later in this original thread. Or maybe CDDA formatting has changed again in the time since? I already updated it once specifically due to CDDA bugs

Technically I can update it with yet another patch, but one would need to be 100% sure that it actually works in the latest version and track down when and why it changed from when it was originally working just fine. Kind of annoying that CDDA broke compatibility again if that's the case...

In the meantime, depending on your needs I guess there'd be the option of using find and replace to change tags in the art file itself.

[Boondiggle]

I have the latest stable steam version. I'm discussing this with the CDDA discord and trying to figure out if there is a way to include all the color combos instead of only half of them (this is internal CDDA stuff, nothing to do with REXPaint yet). For the ones that do work, I already have a list of exported color tags vs what they should be. I'm doing more testing this evening with it. Thanks! REXPaint has been an invaluable tool for ascii art creation for CDDA, and I'll use it regardless.

[Kyzrati]

Awesome, in any case you can use the text replacement approach for now, and yeah let me know if and when there are changes or a confirmed stable list. I could release a patch, but ideally once it's actually final (again).

Also not sure if the Steam version diverges from non-Steam in this regard... plus there are plenty of forks out there, though I imagine none of them would really touch this stuff, it's a mainline concern (and likely same as Steam, as I understand it).

[Boondiggle]

Here is an image exported from REXPaint 1.70 using all of CDDA's possible colors

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  {
    "type": "ascii_art",
    "id": "22cb",
    "picture": [
      "<color_black_red>ƒ</color><color_red>ƒ</color><color_green_red>ƒ</color><color_brown_red>ƒ</color><color_blue_red>ƒ</color><color_magenta_red>ƒ</color><color_cyan_red>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_red>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_red>ƒ</color><color_light_red_red>ƒ</color><color_light_green_red>ƒ</color><color_yellow_red>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_red>ƒ</color><color_pink_red>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_red>ƒ</color><color_white_red>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_green>ƒ</color><color_red_green>ƒ</color><color_green>ƒ</color><color_brown_green>ƒ</color><color_blue_green>ƒ</color><color_magenta_green>ƒ</color><color_cyan_green>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_green>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_green>ƒ</color><color_light_red_green>ƒ</color><color_light_green_green>ƒ</color><color_yellow_green>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_green>ƒ</color><color_pink_green>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_green>ƒ</color><color_white_green>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_brown>ƒ</color><color_red_brown>ƒ</color><color_green_brown>ƒ</color><color_brown>ƒ</color><color_blue_brown>ƒ</color><color_magenta_brown>ƒ</color><color_cyan_brown>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_brown>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_brown>ƒ</color><color_light_red_brown>ƒ</color><color_light_green_brown>ƒ</color><color_yellow_brown>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_brown>ƒ</color><color_pink_brown>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_brown>ƒ</color><color_white_brown>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_blue>ƒ</color><color_red_blue>ƒ</color><color_green_blue>ƒ</color><color_brown_blue>ƒ</color><color_blue>ƒ</color><color_magenta_blue>ƒ</color><color_cyan_blue>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_blue>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_blue>ƒ</color><color_light_red_blue>ƒ</color><color_light_green_blue>ƒ</color><color_yellow_blue>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_blue>ƒ</color><color_pink_blue>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_blue>ƒ</color><color_white_blue>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_magenta>ƒ</color><color_red_magenta>ƒ</color><color_green_magenta>ƒ</color><color_brown_magenta>ƒ</color><color_blue_magenta>ƒ</color><color_magenta>ƒ</color><color_cyan_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_magenta>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_red_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_green_magenta>ƒ</color><color_yellow_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_magenta>ƒ</color><color_pink_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_magenta>ƒ</color><color_white_magenta>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_cyan>ƒ</color><color_red_cyan>ƒ</color><color_green_cyan>ƒ</color><color_brown_cyan>ƒ</color><color_blue_cyan>ƒ</color><color_magenta_cyan>ƒ</color><color_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_cyan>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_red_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_green_cyan>ƒ</color><color_yellow_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_cyan>ƒ</color><color_pink_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_cyan>ƒ</color><color_white_cyan>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_red_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_green_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_brown_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_blue_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_magenta_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_cyan_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_light_red_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_light_green_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_yellow_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_pink_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_white_light_gray>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_dark_gray>ƒ</color>       <color_dark_gray>ƒ</color>       ",
      "<color_black_light_red>ƒ</color>        <color_light_red>ƒ</color>      ",
      "<color_black_light_green>ƒ</color>         <color_light_green>ƒ</color>     ",
      "<color_black_yellow>ƒ</color>          <color_yellow>ƒ</color>    ",
      "<color_black_light_blue>ƒ</color>           <color_light_blue>ƒ</color>   ",
      "<color>ƒ</color>            <color_pink>ƒ</color>  ",
      "<color_black_light_cyan>ƒ</color>             <color_light_cyan>ƒ</color> ",
      "<color_black_white>ƒ</color>              <color_white>ƒ"
    ]
  },
And here's what it looks like in-game (tested with 0.G and 0.G STEAM)



Here is the same code, but updated with color tags that match definitions in the current stable version of CDDA

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    {
    "type": "ascii_art",
    "id": "22cb",
    "picture": [
      "<color_black_red>ƒ</color><color_red>ƒ</color><color_green_red>ƒ</color><color_brown_red>ƒ</color><color_blue_red>ƒ</color><color_magenta_red>ƒ</color><color_cyan_red>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_red>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_red>ƒ</color><color_light_red_red>ƒ</color><color_light_green_red>ƒ</color><color_yellow_red>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_red>ƒ</color><color_pink_red>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_red>ƒ</color><color_white_red>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_green>ƒ</color><color_red_green>ƒ</color><color_green>ƒ</color><color_brown_green>ƒ</color><color_blue_green>ƒ</color><color_magenta_green>ƒ</color><color_cyan_green>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_green>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_green>ƒ</color><color_light_red_green>ƒ</color><color_light_green_green>ƒ</color><color_yellow_green>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_green>ƒ</color><color_pink_green>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_green>ƒ</color><color_white_green>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_yellow>ƒ</color><color_red_yellow>ƒ</color><color_green_yellow>ƒ</color><color_brown>ƒ</color><color_blue_yellow>ƒ</color><color_magenta_yellow>ƒ</color><color_cyan_yellow>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_yellow>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_yellow>ƒ</color><color_light_red_yellow>ƒ</color><color_light_green_yellow>ƒ</color><color_yellow_yellow>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_yellow>ƒ</color><color_pink_yellow>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_yellow>ƒ</color><color_white_yellow>ƒ",
      "</color><color_h_blue>ƒ</color><color_h_red>ƒ</color><color_h_green>ƒ</color><color_h_brown>ƒ</color><color_blue>ƒ</color><color_h_magenta>ƒ</color><color_h_cyan>ƒ</color><color_h_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_h_dark_gray>ƒ</color><color_h_light_red>ƒ</color><color_h_light_green>ƒ</color><color_h_yellow>ƒ</color><color_h_light_blue>ƒ</color><color_h_pink>ƒ</color><color_h_light_cyan>ƒ</color><color_h_white>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_magenta>ƒ</color><color_red_magenta>ƒ</color><color_green_magenta>ƒ</color><color_brown_magenta>ƒ</color><color_blue_magenta>ƒ</color><color_magenta>ƒ</color><color_cyan_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_magenta>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_red_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_green_magenta>ƒ</color><color_yellow_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_magenta>ƒ</color><color_pink_magenta>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_magenta>ƒ</color><color_white_magenta>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_cyan>ƒ</color><color_red_cyan>ƒ</color><color_green_cyan>ƒ</color><color_brown_cyan>ƒ</color><color_blue_cyan>ƒ</color><color_magenta_cyan>ƒ</color><color_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_gray_cyan>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_red_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_green_cyan>ƒ</color><color_yellow_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_cyan>ƒ</color><color_pink_cyan>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_cyan>ƒ</color><color_white_cyan>ƒ",
      "</color><color_black_white>ƒ</color><color_red_white>ƒ</color><color_green_white>ƒ</color><color_brown_white>ƒ</color><color_blue_white>ƒ</color><color_magenta_white>ƒ</color><color_cyan_white>ƒ</color><color_light_gray>ƒ</color><color_dark_gray_white>ƒ</color><color_light_red_white>ƒ</color><color_light_green_white>ƒ</color><color_yellow_white>ƒ</color><color_light_blue_white>ƒ</color><color_pink_white>ƒ</color><color_light_cyan_white>ƒ</color><color_white_white>ƒ",
      "</color><color_i_dark_gray>ƒ</color>       <color_dark_gray>ƒ</color>       ",
      "</color><color_i_light_red>ƒ</color>        <color_light_red>ƒ</color>      ",
      "</color><color_i_light_green>ƒ</color>         <color_light_green>ƒ</color>     ",
      "</color><color_i_yellow></color>           <color_yellow>ƒ</color>    ",
      "</color><color_i_light_blue>ƒ</color>           <color_light_blue>ƒ</color>   ",
      "</color><color_i_pink>ƒ</color>            <color_pink>ƒ</color>  ",
      "</color><color_i_light_cyan>ƒ</color>             <color_light_cyan>ƒ</color> ",
  "</color><color_i_white>ƒ</color>              <color_white>ƒ</color>"]
  },
And here's what that looks like in-game



Here's a table of current color tags that need updating and their updated versions to their right:

current	updated		current	updated		current	updated
black_brown	black_yellow		magenta_blue	h_magenta		light_red_light_gray	light_red_white
red_brown	red_yellow		cyan_blue	h_cyan		light_green_light_gray	light_green_white
green_brown	green_yellow		light_gray_blue	h_light_gray		yellow_light_gray	yellow_white
blue_brown	blue_yellow		dark_gray_blue	h_dark_gray		light_blue_light_gray	light_blue_white
magenta_brown	magenta_yellow		light_red_blue	h_light_red		pink_light_gray	pink_white
cyan_brown	cyan_yellow		light_green_blue	h_light_green		light_cyan_light_gray	light_cyan_white
light_gray_brown	light_gray_yellow		yellow_blue	h_yellow		white_light_gray	white_white
dark_gray_brown	dark_gray_yellow		light_blue_blue	h_light_blue		black_dark_gray	i_dark_gray
light_red_brown	light_red_yellow		pink_blue	h_pink		black_light_red	i_light_red
light_green_brown	light_green_yellow		light_cyan_blue	h_light_cyan		black_light_green	i_light_green
yellow_brown	yellow_yellow		white_blue	h_white		black_yellow	i_yellow
light_blue_brown	light_blue_yellow		black_light_gray	black_white		black_light_blue	i_light_blue
pink_brown	pink_yellow		red_light_gray	red_white		black_pink	i_pink
light_cyan_brown	light_cyan_yellow		green_light_gray	green_white		black_light_cyan	i_light_cyan
white_brown	white_yellow		brown_light_gray	brown_white		black_white	i_white
black_blue	h_blue		blue_light_gray	blue_white
red_blue	h_red		magenta_light_gray	magenta_white
green_blue	h_green		cyan_light_gray	cyan_white
brown_blue	h_brown		dark_gray_light_gray	dark_gray_white

I'm not sure when this changed. I'll have to do some more digging to find that out. As far as having a full color palette goes, that was a pipe dream. I learned that Cata has technical restrictions placed on its colors to conform with a particular ANSI standard, so the above "half" palette is all the colors that artists have available to work with.

[Boondiggle]

To account for CDDA's limited selection of colors, I hacked together a new palette for REXPaint:

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{  0,  0,  0} {255,  0,  0} {  0,110,  0} { 92, 51, 23} {  0,  0,200} {139, 58, 98} {  0,150,180} {150,150,150} { 99, 99, 99} {255,150,150} {  0,255,  0} {255,255,  0} {100,100,255} {254,  0,254} {  0,240,255} {255,255,255}
{255,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{  0,110,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{ 92, 51, 23} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{  0,  0,200} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{139, 58, 98} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{  0,150,180} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{150,150,150} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
{  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0} {  0,  0,  0}
It's pretty simple. Foreground colors right, background colors down. You just have to remember that light (bright) backgrounds only work with a black foreground. Attempting to use a light color background with any foreground color besides black will result in an error in-game.

[Kyzrati]

Okay thanks for the details! I looked back at REXPaint's source to see the original reference material, and it was based on the work done in the original thread I linked earlier (supported by the initial user), and the official docs section here (which by the way includes an incorrect link that should be this instead). I don't see any color documentation other that what's in the source itself.

I'm quite curious why CDDA can't use like... a normal naming scheme. It was kinda bad before and it's even more terrible now xD. At least insofar as these particular tags are concerned.

On closer inspection, your table doesn't seem to align with the source code there, or at least not all possibilities are represented. Why would that be? I could just outright make a direct conversion based on your table for export purposes (which would also save time), though I would want to know that it's correct and complete in that case.